That's pretty unusual. They'd have to litigate the substance of the shelter before a jury in a criminal trial. It's hard to imagine that the government could pull that off. It's too complicated.

There is potential exposure there. Whether it's criminal responsibility or not, I can't gauge. Certainly they're ethically responsible, and in terms of civil penalties there's a good chance they'll have to answer to the government.

A fox should not be on the jury at a goose's trial.

The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence.

It took three years for this to get to trial, the trial took two weeks and the jury turned in the verdict at about 5 p.m. on Tuesday.

There is clearly jury misconduct. My client should be entitled to a new trial.