That's in probably a thousand passes. If we made five mistakes, we had to do it all over.

As time has gone on, that game has grown exponentially. It was like Brown vs. Board of Education. It wasn't quite like that at the time.

They recruited great players. That always helps.

Everything you did had to be so precise. He watched everything like a hawk. He knew if you crossed your fingers incorrectly. You had to do everything correctly or you wouldn't be around long.

We just got our (butt) beat by a much better team, sometimes that happens. We made a lot of mistakes but a lot of them were forced.

He has improved as a person, as a professional. He is so much better prepared. He minimizes mistakes, knows what he has done wrong when he does it. He's essentially become his own pitching coach.