That is one of the Laws of Usenet, up there with 'You can tell when a Usenet discussion is getting old when someone drags out Hitler and the Nazis

The laws are different and up for interpretation but I wasn't venturing into a discussion about something that wasn't on the agenda. A conversation on a forensic audit was brought up under 'budget.' You tell me how that fits in.

One point here is that it's very valuable for the staff to be involved in that discussion. When there's really thoughtful discussion about an issue, it seems the right thing is done most of the time.

The discussion about any one league will not go into our discussions when it comes time to select the at-larges. We are going to look strictly at teams, what teams have done.

There was a lot of discussion about [Katrina], ... One of the most important things we can learn is how we need horizontal integration -- how to work together at the local level.

We had a very constructive backdrop in the markets for this quarter, and we were able to take advantage of that. And we still have many opportunities to drive further growth.