That gets really expensive. I know kids who are not in choir because they don?t have the money to pay for it.

He cost me a lot of money.

If there was another way to make the money ... whatever it takes to allow this tribe or any tribe not to be under the gun looking for federal government funds - most tribes and tribal chairmen would do that. Everyone wants to regulate Indian gaming, but not non-Indian gaming. Why is that? That's the question.

Grinding, touching -- they think it's going to be like stripping. Kids don't want to do that. They just want to have fun and dance.

You use this plastic thing that has cutouts. It might be hard for younger kids to hold down the stencil so it doesn't move, but it's fun helping them.

The people are so lonely and so scared. It was just a big deal to sit and talk to them.