Some people have done it in 3. Most people get it in 11 or 15.

On First Friday, it's plenty busy enough, but there's still a lot of people who don't know about it. We'd like to have people coming on a daily basis.

We are selling as much art as we are taking entry fees.

I'm trying to keep affordable space for artists.

That's our biggest challenge out here because, as you know, they are taking down the affordable housing complexes and they certainly aren't building any new ones.

We want to know how many dollars are being spent, how many dollars are coming in and what's the benefit to the community. We're looking at everything.