So that's my main role right now and really the politics also includes going out and communicating to the world why Apache is a good thing, why companies should be involved in it, and why individuals should be involved in it too.

On the Apache server the core team duties are distributed among 20 or so people, but only six to eight are active at any point in time.

I think the most that I've learned has been, how do I put this? The innate goodness inside of all of us.

I don't get a chance to code any more.

Certainly I get a lot personally out of it as well, there's the recognition and things like that but mostly I try to take that as an opportunity to explain why I hope we could see more projects like Apache out there and why it's a good thing for society.

And, I think that is actually appropriate because I'm really not the world's best programmer, I think it's a good thing that I'm not touching the code.