She's the explorer and I'm the navigator. We meet in the middle on strategy and what's practical.

I don't think it was a glass ceiling. I think it was a barrier you have to break through, which I think every entrepreneur has to face in some way. You're just sitting there with an idea, you've proven nothing, you're just asking for money. It's just this very awkward odd time.

My experience is that entrepreneurs who have taken the step to form a board of directors are serious about growth.

We decided it would be incredibly valuable to have someone on our side of the table who had some direct industry experience, a ton of professional experience and who could vouch for us.

(The issue) became so pervasive that we decided to create a separate subcommittee.

No one would say we don't want industry here, because that's what we have, and we coexist quite well.