Scientists. What will not stop this from happening is government oversight.

I'm glad we're not losing them completely in California. Ed has tremendously high scientific standards, and his upbeat, 'can-do,' friendly personality is wonderful at getting people to work together on projects.

But that's not what's happening. This is already, as far as I can see, a fait accompli. The government isn't waiting for a study. They've decided this is what they want to do.

Let's not have a charade about oversight.

I think what happened unfortunately is there is no policy in the U.S. government to allow these scientists to come to the U.S.. ... There is no plea-bargain policy.

We look like we're just crybabies, ... And the world out there is not sympathetic to government scientists who make more money than the vice president of the United States. Let's get real.