Right, right, he saw his power slipping away. And he said, "Now I'd better join the band here." They gave us their support. It was going along quite well.

I saw Pierre, and I gave it up to him.

I wanted to be in a band that gave bang for the buck. I wanted to be in the band who didn't look like a bunch of guys who, you know, should be in a library studying for their finals.

Linux gave [these companies] a greater sense of choice. We saw some limited concern over Linux fracturing, but it was a minor issue at best.

He saw that he wasn't getting the ball, and he gave up. He just gave up. That's the best way I can put it. I'm not going to have the team go down with him.

Styx is a very exclusive club. The band doesn't think of it as the new Styx -- they think of it as a continuum.