Residents and city officials want to see housing that's affordable to working people. They will never get there if they say you cannot open up industrial land to residential building.

Hopefully we will turn some new people on (to the band).

The next sentence in my comment was, 'We are still investigating and we will hold people accountable,' and unfortunately, we are still looking at some of those issues so I can't really get into that,

Reserving acreage as critical habitat just makes it more daunting to build housing that's affordable. Setting aside habitat is just the least efficient way to protect species.

If costs increase 20%, and a portion of that cost increase is attributable to theft, that would be felt by home buyers.

I'm talking about people ... who will come in here with guns and understand that they don't have to check with anybody before they return fire,