People who are getting up in years die in the winter when the days are short, and in the hours after midnight. Life is at a low ebb after midnight and in the short days. Did you know that?

I used to say there were only ... a few hundred (in the latter category). These are people who like to play with software and figure out how to find exploits into the software. That requires lots of good technical talent and knowing how to do software testing.

But we need to get something back in there that can serve not only the residents but also attract people around the city.

In some way that (the Gaza evictions) may be inspiring people to go, the only way to hold on the land is to be there.

It's hard to get young people.

These are not your average hackers. They're highly skilled people who try to find holes in commercial software.