Our members work hard for good benefits. We work hard to get them good benefits, and we'd like to keep them.

we have seen it does not work.

Take the military option off the table -- we have already seen it doesn't work.

There's a tremendous amount of really historical work here. They represent my friend's life.

It's brutal. If the work has to be done, I just hope they get it done as quickly as possible.

There's a silver lining to this. Once the consultation happens, it could bring resources to the region to deal with water quality issues ... to clean up Puget Sound, for instance.