One would think that consumers would want to see someone in. But when push comes to shove, the consumers want their World Perks miles, and they will support Northwest.

If push comes to shove, we might have to.

But when push came to shove, ... I think it stuck in the Gallic craw that a) I was English and b) I had been in a pop group — though the French are better at allowing movement between disciplines. Then Nadine died, and we put the project on the shelf. I picked it up again in '95.

I think some of these carriers can still make it,

It reaffirms that he's not a moderate. When push comes to shove, he's another conservative Republican.

I don't feel like we are underdogs. We took our bumps during the season, but when push came to shove we did OK. They believed in themselves and their teammates. That is what took us here.