On a number of occasions, he sliced people down. The tribe's lawyers were not able to shake my testimony.

I absolutely think he?s a conservationist in the good sense of that word, and he?s not out there on the fringe following a dogma, but rather trying to solve problems. People ought to consider themselves very lucky that they have him in that position rather than someone who might be considered a demagogue.

The bill will do more damage to people than good, especially in rural America. People will be forced to sell their land for federal land acquisition.

A critical mass is developing of people who are now aware of the problems that the existing Endangered Species Act imposes on landowners and communities and understands that it's counterproductive to recovering species.

Well, as you have realized on a number of occasions, I get damned if I do and damned if I don't. And the important thing is to try to make sure that we recognize that it is a matter of state law in most cases, that each state conducts its elections according to state law, and that we do not interfere unless there is a basis for federal jurisdiction,

The Park Service has been arrogant for a very, very long time. They are a cloistered, almost cult-like society. The Park Service doesn't believe it needs to listen to what Congress is telling them. They think, 'We know better how to define the law.' They have a whole history of using parks as a tool to lock up land.