Obviously I wouldn't have said that three or four years ago in the midst of it. But I really believe that. It's been a marvelous and important experience.

The Northwest is in better shape than it was eight years ago.

I look back on it, yeah, I'm in a much worse financial position than I was eight years ago. I'm going to have to go out at age 62 and kind of readdress some of that.

About 40 years ago I had an experience where I wrote a tract.

I'd only been in the business three or four years, but I told myself that someday I'd like to be Mort Janklow.

When he brought it to me four years ago, Rodney King had just arrived, I was involved in the clean-up of L.A. and I guess it was part of my experience.