Now if he said to me, 'I want you [to] tell them the blood shall flow and you must attack them,' I would not have delivered that message,

It's so hard to fight against ghosts, when they say there's evidence and it's not there.

It's one of the real sacred precincts of the law -- that your client should be absolutely free to tell you whatever he needs to tell to you, and you should be free to give whatever advice you need to give.

The cherished freedoms that we really need to defend, among them being the right to counsel, the right to having a lawyer that you consult with in absolute privacy -- that's been breached in this case,

I've been doing this work for 30 years, and I am well aware of the bright line and I have never stepped over it, and I certainly didn't do it in this case either.

The bright line says the lawyer doesn't become part of the criminal enterprise, whatever that enterprise may be,