National security always matters, obviously. But the reality is that if you have an open door in your software for the good guys, the bad guys get in there, too.

There have been people that suggest that we should have a back door. But the reality is if you put a back door in, that back door's for everybody - for good guys and bad guys.

There's no good guys and bad guys.

The bad guys don't always get punished and the good guys are not necessarily pure.

I never saw Frankenstein or King Kong or the Creature from the Black Lagoon as bad guys. They were the good guys.

I'm a bad girl. I always fall for good guys.