Mr. Murdock was the chief lawyer, chief lobbyist -- he was the whole package on this deal.

We know a great deal more about what was stolen than we do about how it was stolen,

That's Trevor 'The Waterfall' Hall. He's the full package. He's the full meal deal. ... It may look like he's in trouble, but he's actually in controlled position.

He asked me to be his lobbyist.

The President is the people's lobbyist.

The company later went broke, and of course all blame was directed at the lawyers. Not once did I hear any talk that maybe a trace of mismanagement could in any way have contributed to the bankruptcy.