Moose had no command. He's a feel pitcher, and it just wasn't there tonight. When you see him walk guys like that, you know something's wrong.

Moose was great; we ran the pitch count up more than we wanted to, but he was a trooper tonight. He had the one bad inning, but he battled his tail off. We just didn't give him anything to work with.

Moose is important. He's a stabilizer on our staff. He's not overpowering like some of the guys but he's got a lot to go to. I have a feeling Moose is going to pitch as long as he wants to pitch.

There's no trickery in what he does -- he just goes after you. That's why he's the pitcher he is -- those guys usually get tougher with men in scoring position. There's not always blame to be put on people.

You get beat when you walk guys, and we did tonight.

We don't want to mess with Randy and Moose.