Money speaks in Utah.

Because, you know, you're in Utah. And because of its political conservatism, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.

Generally speaking, I went through that. I came to a place where I realised what true value was. It wasn't money. Money is a means to achieving an end, but it's not the end.

Whereas money is a means to an end for a filmmaker, to the corporate mind money is the end. Right now, I think independent film is very confused, because there's excess pressure in the marketplace for entertainment to pay off.

There is no voluntary HAZMAT team in Utah,

The technology available for film-making now is incredible, but I am a big believer that it's all in the story.