Making money or making a profit is not part of our agenda. The payback is through the learning and experiential activities that our students participate in.

I think gradually, with the procurement of grants, we might be able to restore some of the farm back to the way it should be.

There was a larger use of the farm with the horses. Now there are no longer horses there. It is now strictly used as an outdoor laboratory for our agriculture production courses.

You have to take care of these animals 365 days of the year. It's not just a Monday through Friday type of job.

It used to be that producers would make a profit, with the idea that they would put that money into a new show,

Nobody ever lost money taking a profit.