Ken was just a tremendous father, and we would take Ben fishing out at Camp Clay. He would come up to the Y and play basketball, and he's quite a golfer also.

I think we went to almost every Miami game when he played there.

They've always remained close to Van Wert. They'll come to town and visit us, and visit the Y. Brenda has always kind of kept her finger on things here in Van Wert.

It's wild right now for them. Brenda just said last week that she was just overwhelmed with getting everything ready.

He knew so much about fishing. It was a delight to watch him fish, especially fly fishing. There was quite an art in that. He was the best I'd ever seen.

They're the Wal-Mart of the . . . fishing business.