It's one of those kinds of situations where there is no place to win.

We showed the legislators what these cuts meant for students. We wanted to put a student face on this.

Was it widely exploited? No, but it was interesting to see it exploited on the Mac platform.

There is a lot of financial incentive to exploit this stuff and foist nasty, unwanted things onto people's desktops without their consent.

They don't want to make a lot of noise. They want to be very stealthy, which is one of the trends we see going forward.

We've been competing with the U.S. from day one here in Canada. [U.S.-based companies] provided the legacy systems here that we've had to compete against and win business from. It is the same competitors south of the border.