It's almost a spiritual thing.

We are the voice of wildlife. They can't speak for themselves.

The industry folks I've spoken to are very receptive. They're saying 'Tell us what the impacts are and tell us how we can minimize those.

They're just coming at us left and right. As soon as we get one species addressed, there comes another one.

We really tried to sit back and say, 'How do we get ahead of this so we're not always playing defense.

I think both teams are going to be out to prove who?s really the top dog. If I was to read into it a little bit I imagine they?re wondering how good we are.