It took on a life of its own.

If they knew it was that valuable, and that important, they would say, 'Maybe we should find another way.

So we said, let's organize this huge march of the pueblo, of the people.

All of this made people say, that's enough.

I've lived with this stuff my entire life.

My grandfather taught me generosity. He sold snow cones in Harlem. I went with him at 5 and he let me hand out the change and snow cones. I learned a lot in the couple of years that we did that.