It takes eight, ten or 12 years sometimes before people can really prove there has been a positive cash improvement as a result of going with Linux,

We might well be reaching a tipping point at which it becomes acceptable to start to use Linux,

In this industry it is not worth doing something that will take this long.

Even though the end result was disappointing, we were very positive on our improvement.

The improvement of relations with German is positive, but this does not mean that we no longer have very important problems.

It's great that we're showing some positive improvement, but it's all relative. We still have a long way to go. There is a lot of good local talent we want to see tied in more to the corporate board level.