It is a proper one - he said he felt it was like a knife.

We tried to get Wayne in on loan before the transfer window closed because it's an area we felt we needed to strengthen,

Stephen Carr had a hernia operation and then damaged the stomach muscle on the other side. He felt a general aching in that area and was unable to continue.

No one benefits other than a few quid in the coffers of the respective FA. It's just so outrageous that in the modern game this can happen. You'd be far better just having a get-together for a bit of bonding.

Ramage was feeling his calf on one leg and his Achilles on the other leg. He had a difficult 45 minutes and that's unfortunately where they got their breakthrough from.

At one point I just felt I was absolutely gone.