In a perfect scenario, you'd have Joe hitting sixth. But if it's not perfect, I could see him hitting fifth, somehow behind Casey and Jason Bay. This is a guy who knows how to keep the offense moving, hit to all fields.

It's not about the velocity. What impressed me was the movement Oliver had with his fastball in the hitting zone. He pitched great. He pitched like the ace of a staff.

Lefties are hitting .308 against him and righties are hitting .122 [entering Saturday], ... [Derek Lowe], the last three starts, has been brilliant. You need to provide him good defense.

He was real good early, and then his command wavered some there in the fourth and fifth inning. The next hurdle that he needs to overcome is to maintain the consistency of his delivery throughout the course of his start. He's making strides.

To have a guy as your sixth starter who could very easily be your fifth starter -- we want to be a championship organization -- and that's the kind of depth championship teams have.

If we can get fifth or sixth we'll be doing well. There's no way we'll beat Aspen, Summit or Vail Mountain School, but if we can stay ahead of Battle Mountain, that'll be great. For a bunch of kids who train for two-and-a-half months out of the year, they do great, and I'm real proud of them.