I'm not very objective. I'm just hanging in there trying to manage my pain.

I think most of us don't have much leisure time anyway. So you'll see people trying to squeeze in leisure when they can -- even people who can't afford it have a cell phone, so they can get things done on the run.

Consumers are trying to displace the pain for a few weeks.

We're trying our darnedest to make sure trailers aren't in 99 percent of Hall County.

You're trying to send the message down a different path.

We are really trying to discover the genetic and environmental factors that contribute to Chiari. We do think Chiari is congenital, so it's something people are born with, but may not show symptoms until later.