I'm not sure they can put it all together to beat Detroit or beat a Miami or a Cleveland. But I wouldn't bet against them.

I give credit to Cleveland and give credit to Detroit,

It would have meant nothing to beat Dallas, Detroit and Miami if we would have gone out here and lost to Atlanta. You've got to beat the teams that you're supposed to beat.

We're still working together shoulder to shoulder. We're not skipping a beat.

Definitely we feel we can play with them. Miami, we've played well against them. Detroit, they've played well, but we know we're capable of beating them. For us to go in and get one on their home floor would say something.

I'm not sure if Denver played Cleveland in the finals, it would be the same phenomena as when they both came into the league.