I'm not sure about that. I think we're doing it to ourselves.

I'm not sure right now if it's the pitchers out there. I think right now it's us. We're doing it to ourselves. Guys are trying way too hard.

He's not happy at all about that leg injury. Like he said, 'I've busted my tail. I've worked hard. I don't need nothing like this to happen.' But at the same time, it's early. He ain't going to miss that much time. Who cares if you give him another week or so?

I don't think anybody has quit, we're just going through a rough time, ... We owe it to ourselves and our fans to play as hard as we can the rest of the season so that everybody can have something to look forward to by the time spring training rolls around.

They've been outstanding. With Kenny here, I really think his influence, how he goes about his business, it's rubbing off. These guys are learning. They have somebody that they can go to with questions.

For making the ice, we made sure we have allowed ourselves enough time so that we are not going to get ourselves jammed into a corner. We are going to be patient to make ice in the best way -- the best way to make a solid layer of ice is you layer it a little bit at a time and you don't rush it. You don't go up there and dump 1,200 gallons and walk away and wait for it to freeze. We do it in small layers with a hose and a fine mist, and hour after hour.