If someone is not happy with one thing we either tweak it until they're happy with it. We all know where that line is, where you have to be three hands up.

Just stay real and stay a real person.

It's about putting the pedal to the metal and not asking any questions at all and just going for it.

If I wasn't a musician I could find something else... maybe an artist or a painter because I still do all that. Or possibly a writer.

Florida has been really cool to us. This is our first big club tour, and Pennywise has been really nice.

Even though we're not the most punk rock band, the way we've done things is pretty punk rock. Just kinda say it with a big middle finger to the record labels and do it ourselves.