If maintenance is deferred, these buildings and structures decay to the point that major capital outlay is required.

One of the concerns that our membership raises is that there is the deferred maintenance. The question is that there's been downsizing over the years,

It does not mean that there are not major countries that have not stayed outside the treaty, including our own -- the United States. But we believe that we will eventually get every nation in the world on board ... because we keep monitoring their activities ... and we keep the pressure on them every day.

Refinery activity has been very depressed because of damage caused by hurricanes last year and deferred maintenance. There was a huge surge in imports after last year's storms but that has ended. At the same time refinery activity has not recovered.

We can't do much with $250,000 in the maintenance fund.

It was clearly a major point of discussion and you would wish that everybody would have voluntarily complied with the spirit of what was being discussed.