I want hair to have attitude like clothes ... Those are the models that interest me most. The ones that have real attitude, that look like they have a life and they don't just wait around for people to style them. You know, they bring something to the table.

You're not working with models, you're working with real women who have, like, anatomy. Models do not have anatomy.

Synergistically - I hate that word; it's so 90's - but each of these projects feeds one another. I don't know how the clothes can exist without the show, and I don't know how the show can exist without the clothes.

You try to overcome this day to day, primarily through communication. They have understood that as much as it hurts, there are things you must slightly turn away from.

[The loft space doubles as his design studio. During the taping two women could be seen in the background diligently sewing. But he has no plans to put up partitions. Rather, in this day and age, he sees the two enterprises - design and television - working as one.] Synergistically - I hate that word; it's so 90's - but each of these projects feeds one another, ... I don't know how the clothes can exist without the show, and I don't know how the show can exist without the clothes.

I was not expecting that at all. I thought this girl is all prim and proper on the outside, but she's a wild woman on the inside.