I think that sometimes environmentalists can be out of touch with the reality of poverty, of the challenges that face people who have just emerged from civil war. Wildlife conservation can't happen in isolation.

First we have to stare reality in the face and not engage in delusional thinking. Poverty is a key policy concern, and we have to start with the dramatic portrayal of its reality and then begin to change that picture.

We believe that economic development subsidies for job creation -- if they are serious about reducing poverty -- must be better integrated with public transit. These projects demonstrate many ways that localities are making that connection.

But the reality is, they didn't get beat. No one from Indiana was able to get that done. It's going to be an unbelievable task, because they are a great team.

Reality Show.

We've built 26 cisterns, all attached to schools, all within two kilometers of the park.