I think in (Wake Forest game) you saw the vulnerability some times. We've got to stay healthy is what it comes down to.

It makes the game seem mighty insignificant.

I am Exhibition B. Joe is Exhibition A. That's all we are. There's a game in there somewhere -- Penn State and Florida State are playing.

I am an exhibit. Joe is exhibit A. There's a game somewhere. Penn State and Florida State are playing. We're just an exhibit.

I just think we want to stay healthy, and I don't think we think about a sense of urgency. We realize how old we are, we realize we've been playing this game for a long time, but you know what? We're not done yet.

You can live by biblical principles, and you can teach by those principles and still be a winner. So many coaches think you've got to kick your players in the rear end. You've got to cuss them out. You've got to hit them across the head. No. You don't have to do that.