I seriously do not think Nirvana is grunge.

The Melvins are grunge.

As far as the grunge thing, there are three bands from Seattle that I would call true grunge.

I was into grunge, the heavy, distorted guitars, bands like Nirvana. Although, we weren't that good. But I wore the flannels, the long underwear, the whole deal.

When you don't know what the band looks like, it puts the emphasis on thinking and taking the music and message more seriously.

I like women who look like women. I hated grunge. No one's more feminist than me, but you don't have to look as if you don't give a - you know. You can be smart, bright, and attractive aesthetically to others - and to yourself.