I remember him coming and talking to Roger (DuBrock) and I in my office, and he wanted to have an arrangement with Solberg.

After six months of talking about this ordinance we've only talked about office space once, ... Everybody thinks lodging will be the death of downtown. It won't be lodging, it will be office space.

My reasoning was okay but I was misguided in not talking to David

It's not difficult. We're going to class and talking to them or calling them into our office and talking to them one-on-one. It's actually kind of been fun. It's been a very interesting year.

We'd end up in the office talking hockey. He offered (to coach), and I'm not one to turn down help.

They spend quality time together, just the two of them. I'll walk into the Oval Office and they're talking, and I'll walk out and shut the door.