I remember hearing one of our songs on (the BV station) while I was driving and being really thrown by it. And having a CD out is another big step. Even if you don't make it, it's something that you've done and will be remembered by.

We've written some songs that could be played on country stations, even though we don't consider them country songs.

Of course, I'm the guy driving the big red truck.

I said to myself, 'Man, I'm so tired of hearing songs about peoples' ex-girlfriends. It's really nauseating. And the whole me, me, me aspect of it was just like (overdone).

Our earlier stuff was a lot of short songs that were super complicated. Nothing ever repeated. It was one roller coaster after another. We felt like we kind of did that enough ... we wanted to focus on repetition and the things that we chose to repeat.

We'd be singing crazy stuff — making up songs while we shot hoops just to goof around. What began as a hobby eventually became a newfound calling for the three of us.