I know the group was surprised to hear how we feel about trapping. And they are surprised that we both hunt.

That's what I've always strived for, every day, for all of these years.

These wolves are completely terrified of us. They need to be. If they have even a chance at survival in the wild they need to be afraid of humans.

Where wolves live largely depends on human tolerance. Wolf recovery in some ways is more about people than it is about wolves.

That's exactly how we want them to be. A wolf not scared of people is a dead wolf.

I don't shoot guns. I don't know how to do that. I grew Upstate New York, so I fought with my fists.