I know at the beginning of our careers, my wife and I were gut wrenchingly competitive.

It's amazing how a competitive nature can turn a negative into something positive.

I looked through our catalog year by year, and I saw that there were pockets of time when we wrote some terrific songs. Then all of a sudden, we'd go for another two or three months and there weren't great songs.

If we were the team that won out, then life was good and we felt that we were worth something.

You have certain writing tools but generally creating something from nothing makes one quite mad and Cynthia and I are quite mad you know.

I think it's beginning to be very successful; it was always viewed as a long-term project,