I knew who Patrick Arnold was. I was tracking Conte way back in 2000, maybe even earlier. Their heads come up above my radar.

After we knew the molecule, we knew that there was going to be intense litigation over it,

It's obfuscation. There is no attempt to be clear and concise and to describe the product for what it is.

It was very clear to me that DSHEA was created in order to give the supplement manufacturers a huge shield so they could distribute steroids and all kinds of things, which I thought was wrong.

When we do the regular tests on a sample that contains THG we don't see it, ... It disintegrates. It is not stable under the [hot] temperatures. You don't see anything.

I knew it was a matter of time.