I just had this notion that I wanted to do the most extreme thing I could and I also very consciously wanted to do something that was very different from Mars because we were all very close.

The Lounge Lizards were relating with a tradition and it was like I was playing within a musical context. The guitar playing stood out as being different in some way. That was a real education for me.

Playing with Kip I definitely learned a lot playing with these incredible guys and hearing them.

My parents were missionaries - I was born in the States but I grew up in Brazil.

It was very interesting for me because DNA made music without much technical knowledge at all.

It was a turning point in the sense that as a scene, we can up with a lot of new ideas.