I don't think any progress has been made on that front.

There's been progress on that front, but I think that's where the process needs to be going forward. We think there needs to be a redoubled effort in the front office.

If anything, I think they (Liberty) were even stronger on the new business front than I was looking for.

well into an investment cycle that should lead to long-term consistent growth from a stable of high quality strategic businesses.

Originally Toll wanted to buy that through Pacific National,

If you look at Toll as a business, it's a primarily a road-based, freight forwarding business,