I don't know what differently you can do with security because at times, there are 250 to 400 inmates brought to the courthouse every day,

I think that, as public servants, we all have to be mindful of these risks,

There was nobody more deserving.

There was not a nicer, friendlier person. He (Barnes) would hold a Christmas party put on by him and his staff that everyone in the courthouse would go to.

Our expectation was that it would have to do with Social Security, pensions, or health care.

Do not be a security professional when talking to senior executives. Be a business manager, whose expertise happens to be security. If you think that way, you will not fail.