I did it, in all honesty, because I thought I was going to be made a scapegoat in this case.

My wife and my daughter had been asking me to cooperate from the first day. I didn't do it.

We all laughed about it.

We all laughed at that.

I was in jail nine straight years. I was on the lam two-and-a-half years before it. In that period of time, I seen an awful lot of guys that I thought were stand-up guys go bad, turn and become informants.

Nobody ever questioned your honesty. I have never thought of you as less than an honest person.