I always preach don't take anything off granted. We told them there was a solid three seconds left on the clock. Everyone got caught looking.

He got two points for the near fall with three seconds left in the period. I was frustrated and the reversal in the third ended it.

It's so important to get that first one, so the kids can believe it can be done. When you beat Atlantic City, that's when you believe you can play with them.

We wouldn't want to face anyone else. There's a different vibe when we play them. There's something in the air.

It is what it is. These people (the referees) are human too.

I don't know if there's a better rivalry.