He's a great teacher and coach. His players are very well-skilled in fundamentals, and that made them tougher than most of us. Plus, he had talent. Combine that with his coaching, and you have an undefeated (regular) season. He did a remarkable job.

That probably was the game. We had shots -- they just didn't go in.

Dowdy played exceptional. We had some guys in foul trouble and he came in and did a great job, hit some key free throws. When we got that little lead (in the fourth quarter), we went spread and they couldn't handle our guards and we also got a couple easy baskets.

We battled. The officials didn't call much. There was a lot of pushing and shoving, but we battled. We like to play that way anyway.

I think we know each other pretty well. The players have been going against each other for years. I was just anxious to see if we could play with (the Rams) and I think we can.

It seems like all five guys can score. They're going to give us lots of problems.