He was just a good guy. I can't tell you how much he loved the people he worked with. He treated them with respect.

There was a lot of anger.

He was more like a pal.

Well I was more upset than embarrassed. I think my first reaction was anger that there are people around the world who have nothing better with their time to do than to interfere with the works of a university. Secondly, I was concerned about our alumni and donors.

I think some people take for granted where their lunch and dinner come from. I don't think they really stop and think about what it takes to get their food on the table.

That day, I did what I had to do, ... It's good to get people prepared for the unknown 'n stuff. I'd say, yes, Pete Stark is fair in his manners. At least he shows a little interest and support. He's not like all the people who ostracize me.