He tried, but they (Microsoft executives) were completely uninterested in what he had to say about China.

I just tried to ignore him completely. I didn't look at his side once.

If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it’s worth – and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago.

If you compare the positive possibility in China to what's happening in Spain, it completely overshadows that.

Every year in China, Internet executives are officially rewarded for their 'patriotism.'

I wish him the best, I really do. I just think he and Microsoft are a bit narrow. He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger.